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Gary Butt
Location: Leduc,Ab
Posts: 3147
Posted: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 at 03:18 pm
So people like that Roscoe character in Mayerthorpe:We'll just leave him alone......
Or that maniac Billy in Nova Scotia who's wife got so tired of abuse at his hands that
she put a shotgun to his head........we have to verbally plead for those people to
stop or change what they're doing????
These are extreme cases but there are those who "work the system" and know how
to walk the line and cross it when no=one's looking.They're called career criminals.
As time goes by and morals disappear more and more of these types create more
crimes.Living gets more dangerous for the rest of us.
If police don't protect us we will protect ourselves.
 
    
St. George's Newfie
Location: Wasaga Beach, On, via St. George's, NL
Posts: 1007
Posted: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 at 05:17 pm
Gary Butt Wrote:
If police don't protect us we will protect ourselves.


Exactly, but the bleeding hearts don't want that, they would have the duck hunters out in the country turn in their hunting guns, yet they want to make it illegal for the police to search for illegal hand guns in Honda civics on Yonge St.
These empty headed liberals are not able to see the forest for the trees, but the family values oriented conservatives will not fold as easily as these community destroying baby killing lefties.
The people on this site deserve a better class of pot stirrer, and I'm gonna give to them...
 
    
Up Along
Location: Tronto area
Posts: 962
Posted: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 at 05:37 pm
LOL*....

I feels like I'ne read'n the procedure manual from a Natzi boot camp. LOL*
 
    
Madcracker
Location:
Posts: 1007
Posted: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 at 05:44 pm
Up Along Wrote:
LOL*....

I feels like I'ne read'n the procedure manual from a Natzi boot camp. LOL*


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Human conduct is motivated primarily by self-interest
 
    
Gary Butt
Location: Leduc,Ab
Posts: 3147
Posted: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 at 11:35 pm
Today is the anniversay of the 4 police killed in Mayerthorpe by Roscoe.He hated police
just as Salty does.Killed 4 of them then turned the gun on himself.
Roscoe was a sociopath and a lot more.Needed to be put down like a dog with rabies.
However.Salty would leave him alone.
Can't deal with that mentality.
If we don't have enforcable laws society will get worst than the old west ever was.
No one would want to see that come to be,but if it did we could soon stop calling
our selves human.
 
    
Up Along
Location: Tronto area
Posts: 962
Posted: Thursday, March 04, 2010 at 12:10 am
For the mods.

Post edited by Up Along at March 04, 2010 00:15:10
 
    
St. George's Newfie
Location: Wasaga Beach, On, via St. George's, NL
Posts: 1007
Posted: Thursday, March 04, 2010 at 06:14 am
Gary Butt Wrote:
He hated police just as Salty does.


Don't worry Gary, ole Salty doesn't really hate the cops, it's all for show. He knows that if he was ever the victim of violence (you know, if he was swarmed by a girl scout troupe for example) he would be crying for the police like an infant crying for mommy, he is just saying all these things in an attempt to cheese off certain people here in the kitchen, and of course, it is not working, none of those fine people are responding, they are all used to Salty's carrying on by now. Ole Salty means no harm.
So, I am just presenting the opposite side of the debate just to help out poor ole Salty and his threads.

Post edited by St. George's Newfie at March 04, 2010 10:05:20
 
    
Up Along
Location: Tronto area
Posts: 962
Posted: Thursday, March 04, 2010 at 10:27 am
LOL* Bundy.


Gary, your obvious lack of understanding of the human mind, and your cowboy thinking to just destroy anything that doesn't fit in your rosey picture of life, is a mentality I cannot deal with.

I mean really, try to think about this..... If somebody killed another person, police or otherwise, isn't it safe to say "There is something wrong with that person"... Who would do that besides somebody with something wrong with them. So your answer is to take them out back and shoot them.
My answer is to try and fix them. Mostly though, my thinking is simply, I know I wasn't given the power to be God and judge of all. I have a conscience and I won't be the one taking a life. My conscience tells me, taking a life is wrong.
My final comment, if we are willing to take the life of somebody who has something wrong with them, then what nakes us any different than him????
What makes you any different than this Roscoe guy if you are willing to kill him to.
That's a mentality I cannot deal with. That is how the animals do it.
 
    
Gary Butt
Location: Leduc,Ab
Posts: 3147
Posted: Thursday, March 04, 2010 at 12:55 pm
I work beside the police in what I do and have a very good idea of the frustration the
police have when trying to handle people who won't in any way be dealt with.
Roscoe was one of them,he was not going to be subject to the law.To avoid that he
killed himself,the coward.
But he took 4 good police with him.Was therapy going to help this guy???No,He didn't want help he hated the system and anything that represented it,police included.
There are people who can't be helped.They are dangerous.
But it sounds like you could sit em down and smooth everything over with a chat and a beer.
It's not so simple.
What about Clifford Olsen?
Picton the pig farmer? Fix them?
You're only going to trash the police...I'm not saying any more on this.
We need the death penalty again.
 
    
Up Along
Location: Tronto area
Posts: 962
Posted: Thursday, March 04, 2010 at 01:27 pm
Well, from your comments of "Working with them", I can see you have the same "justified" attitude they do.
I don't know of this Roscoe dude and don't care. You say he took four "good" police with him. How do you know they were good????

But that isn't the point of any of this. The point was about that pig who was kicking an innocent man in the ribs. It turned out the man was innocent and the cop has been charged with assult. So you say everybody is wrong and that cop had the right to kick an innocent man in the ribs???
I say that cop should be caged, have a collar around his neck and chained to the cell, like the animal he is.

I don't hate cops and I don't hate anybody.
I dispise the fact we live in a country where the police are corrupted and no minded, brainwashed people support that, because they don't have minds strong enough to see right from wrong and stand up for right.
As far as your Roscoe and your Clifford Olsen.... They should go to jail. But they shoud not be killed.
Perhaps one day when you lose your mind and do something wrong, I'll be there to save your sorry asss when folks like you say "Kill him" and folks like me say, "No, he needs help."
 
    
Madcracker
Location:
Posts: 1007
Posted: Thursday, March 04, 2010 at 01:49 pm
Up along Gary did not tell you the whole story about that "Roscoe dude" Gary makes it sound like Roscoe woke one morning and decided to kill four cops..More to that story than just that. Yes he went behond everything normal in doing what he did but there is more to the story than him killing on impulse.
 
    
Up Along
Location: Tronto area
Posts: 962
Posted: Thursday, March 04, 2010 at 02:49 pm
I know.... I know...... Just another case of telling a version of the story.... Until a video appears with the truth to be seen.

Yanno, thank God for cell phone camera technology. I tell you, anytime EVER if I see or have any kind of situation with police, I will immediately flip my phone and record what I see.
They have proven many times, far beyond any reasonable doubt, that they are liars and cannot be trusted to speak the truth.
 
    
Gary Butt
Location: Leduc,Ab
Posts: 3147
Posted: Thursday, March 04, 2010 at 06:36 pm
MC.Nowhere did I imply That Jim (real name Roszco) killed on impulse.Go Google the
name.He was a career criminal who obeyed no laws but his own.
Same cut of Character as Billy Stafford of Nova Scotia.
You didn't read my entry; about 8 above this one.
You can't reform people like these two.And I for one don't like having to pay to keep
them locked up.
Clifford Olsen was sly enough to get away with having the system pay $100.000 to his
wife in exchange for showing the police where the bodies of eleven children were left.
Police figured at the time there was still more of Olsen's victims out there but he gave up
eleven.
This was 25 yrs or more ago now.
 
    
Madcracker
Location:
Posts: 1007
Posted: Thursday, March 04, 2010 at 07:36 pm
Gary,I don't need to google the names of James Roszko or Billy Stafford to know what kinds of despicible characters they were..If there is anything about these two that I have not read or een, I don't know what it is...Seems like you are very familiar with these two stories also..Did you ever ask yourself why Roszko was allowed to walk free so many times ? Did you ever ask yourself why Mike Statnyk was pulled off the sexual assult case against Roszko ? Did youever ask yourself why the sexual assult case against Rosko was dismissed and likewise his civil case against the police ? That dispicible man was allowed to walk free because somebody was not doing their job..Oh yes and don't forget that the Dale Mindus case was never solved by the same RCMP..You surely know about the Dale Mindus case ....Right ?
 
    
Gary Butt
Location: Leduc,Ab
Posts: 3147
Posted: Thursday, March 04, 2010 at 09:01 pm
Not doing their job?They're not allowed to do their duty without consulting every book
of law ever written because some lawyer will get a criminal free in less time than it takes
to print this sentance.
The police are hobbled in getting their duties done,at every turn.
Even on the Federal level.
The case on the Greyhound bus.....another situation where they didn't have the legal
right to proceed when they arrived.They had to wait 3 hrs before they went aboard.
All in the name of "following procedure".
This again could be traced back to cases before where lawyers have destroyed cases
that should have turned out as they should,but no some lawyer wouldn't let the law
work.
All police are not as they should be,that's wel known.
The sysytem is not perfect but a bad one is better than none.
 
    
Up Along
Location: Tronto area
Posts: 962
Posted: Thursday, March 04, 2010 at 11:57 pm
No, a bad one is not better than none.
 
    
Madcracker
Location:
Posts: 1007
Posted: Friday, March 05, 2010 at 12:09 am
LOL Gary made no attempt to answer my questions lol..All he did was leave Alberta crime and went to a Manitoba crime

I suspect that Gary do indeed know a lot about the killing of these four RCMP members..Never the less there is a lot more to that story that happened before the shooting and and also after the shooting.
 
    
Gary Butt
Location: Leduc,Ab
Posts: 3147
Posted: Friday, March 05, 2010 at 12:43 am
What's to answer MC?
Rozsco threatened anyone who he considered an enemy.There's no negotiating with
someone of that mentality..He was a pediphile also.
I'm simply defending the police that you and Upalong apparently have little regard for.
You're making them out to be the criminals.
That's plain to see.
I'd guess you're both living outside the law.And law is a deterrent to your lifestyles.
What-ever.
I've had enough of this tag-team with you two.
Here ended this thread.
 
    
St. George's Newfie
Location: Wasaga Beach, On, via St. George's, NL
Posts: 1007
Posted: Friday, March 05, 2010 at 07:26 am
Gary Butt Wrote:
I'd guess you're both living outside the law.And law is a deterrent to your lifestyles.


Never thought about that, it's like those privacy crackies who don't want cameras posted on city streets, photo radar or red light cameras. They cry privacy!! The ladies doth protest too much, methinks. If there was nothing to hide, they wouldn't care about cameras and photo radar. If they weren't running red lights with his secretary's head in his lap they wouldn't have to worry about that picture being sent home as part of their ticket.

Gary Butt Wrote:
I've had enough of this tag-team with you two.


Yep, like wolves during a pack hunt, no big surprise Gary, I have seen it on these chat sites for years, it's not their fault, it's most likely a problem caused by society in the past which causes this hatred of society and the institutions we have put in place to help us. Most normal people know that if you don't break the law (laws that WE have put in place, not the Police (we just hire the Police to enforce these laws)) you will never have a confrontation with law enforcement.
However, these hippies are simple minded enough to believe that these fine Police officers are just plucking people off the street and kicking them around. And why? because some pimply faced cop hating socialist decided to shoot a video of a cop making a dangerous arrest, a video which conspicuously is missing the first part of the arrest..
 
    
Madcracker
Location:
Posts: 1007
Posted: Friday, March 05, 2010 at 11:22 am
Gary Butt Wrote:
What's to answer MC?
Rozsco threatened anyone who he considered an enemy.There's no negotiating with
someone of that mentality..He was a pediphile also.
I'm simply defending the police that you and Upalong apparently have little regard for.
You're making them out to be the criminals.
That's plain to see.
I'd guess you're both living outside the law.And law is a deterrent to your lifestyles.
What-ever.
I've had enough of this tag-team with you two.
Here ended this thread.



Ha ha Gary meson you need to take your " chill out " pill before you allow yourself to get ino such an agitated state That just cannot be a healthy state of mind to be in me thinks.
Gary I am sure that you know that in life's experience those that get so defensive over a public topic that they resort to publicilly attacking the other person,these people are the ones that have " something to hide " and will attack for no other reason than to divert the topic. I don't mind the fact that you find it necessary to defend your buddies but if you cannot do it with some kind of dignity then it leads me to believe that you and your buddies are indeed in the same boat.

It was you that diverted the topic of the thread from the initial video and you do not have the fortitude or common decency to see behond your nose to see or accept that there may be varying opinions.

This is the second time in the last couple of weeks that you have made threads attacking my character.The first time you passed it off as it being a joke.I accepted that but you just came back ad did the exact same thing in this thread.

Gary,I don't know you from the man in the moon but if I were allowed to pass a personal opinion on you it would be that you are hiding something and the fear of what you are hiding makes you lash out when youfeel cornered. I think it may be better for yourself and others in your surroundings that you get help for whatever it is thaty ou feel so much inner guilt about...You need help meson !
 
    
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